A team of Huskies

Chad Ford’s trade rumor column, via Kenny, who didn’t send a link:

Rudy Gay, F, Grizzlies
The Grizzlies are playing their best basketball since Jerry West was the GM, so why would they mess with a good thing?

There are two reasons, according to a pair of general managers who have spoken with the Grizzlies in recent days. One, Memphis is concerned that this summer a team flush with cap space will offer Gay (who will be a restricted free agent this summer) a huge contract that Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley will be unwilling to match. Two, the team, currently at 22-19, would love to make the playoffs and believes it’s a veteran defensive presence away from getting there.

While a number of teams would be interested in Gay, a rising talent at age 23, keep your eye on the Pistons. They have been hunting for the right trade in which to move Tayshaun Prince. If Prince is healthy (he has been battling back and knee injuries all season), he might fit the bill for Memphis — and the Pistons could throw in a lottery pick from this year’s draft to sweeten the deal.

Kenny’s thoughts:

You never know how much of these are speculation (most of them). I’d love to trade tayshaun for rudy, don’t know about adding what could very well be a top 5 pick this year. Hell if we rattle off another 13 game losing streak we could be right in the middle of the John Wall sweepstakes, which would probably be the best thing to happen to the Stones since they made the Conference finals and had the second pick in the deepest draft of the last 20 years. Oh, wait…

Gay would be a nice addition for sure, but the Pistons really need a solid big. If we’re really willing to part with our 1st rounder this year I’d much rather make a run at Al Jefferson. For example we could send them Tayshaun and Kwame and our first round pick for Jefferson. They get kwame’s 4 million coming off the books for next year. And a veteran who still has life left and would be a good guy to have around a young team, plus the big prize of another lottery pick to go with their own. Since having two lottery picks turned out so well for them in the last draft, they might want to try another shot at it.

Where does a lineup of Stuckey, RIP, Jerebko, Al Jefferson, and Bwallace put us? With BGordon, Bynum, and Charlie V off the bench? We’d still need a long term answer at Center, but if you have Jefferson you don’t need a scorer, you just need to find somebody to rebound and protect the rim, in the Dalembert, Biedrins, Camby mode. Much easier to find than a true low post scorer…

I’d prefer a starting lineup of Rip, Gordon, Gay, V, and Khalid El-Amin running the point. Straight UConn. Then hopefully we could get Geno to move away from the women’s game and up to the NBA and coach us.

So did Joe D. really blow 80 million on two bench players last summer? Are we resigned to that?

I love Al Jefferson and he’s on a great contract, but I’m sure the Stones would give up too much to get him. He’s a great offensive post player, but he’s not Hakeem, he’d need a lot of good pieces around him. And I worry about pinning our future to a young guy who seems injury prone.

Also, not to be dense, but what’s the point of trading Tayshaun? Just that he’s the player that has the most value and we need to do something? The Rip extension looks worse and worse in hindsight (and at the time it looked pretty bad also.)


9 Responses to “A team of Huskies”

  1. zachary Says:

    the point of trading tayshaun is hes not that good. the scenario for jefferson is giving away too much. id rather have gay i think. run the ball more.

    geno at coach? only if sue bird and diana turasi can be involved somehow.

  2. indeedindeed Says:

    maybe al will be easier to acquire than he should be, because love and jefferson don’t share the floor as well as i expected. i think kenny’s right, either guy needs a true shot blocker on the floor with them. jefferson doesn’t protect the rim as well as he should.

  3. Pat Says:

    i love coming over to kenny’s blog to share my thoughts… 🙂

    anyway, ford seems to be friends or something with pistons management so usually trade ideas involving them might come from some sort of information or knowledge. rudy gay would be great, but i doubt it happens.

    Rip really has no value? I know his contract isn’t very good but he’s still a productive scorer who could really help some teams.

    The biggest mistake Joe D has made since the Darko pick was trading Billups and holding onto Rip and Tay. If he let’s the 2008 team play together a little while longer i think it would have been possible to trade 2 of rip/chauncey/tay/rasheed for something more valuable than iverson’s cap space.

    This pistons team is a mess because they do have talent but it seems to be in all the wrong places.

    With their current roster and a full bill of health I think they would be a playoff team but certainly not any sort of contender. Charlie V is a frustrating player, some games he’s the best player on the court and some he’s literally not one of the 10 best. But while not being a starter, he usually plays down the stretch of every game.

  4. indeedindeed Says:

    that’s a reasonable argument that i hadn’t thought of before: that the chauncey trade hurt the trade value of everyone else.

    still, i think the chauncey trade could have been valuable if we had parlayed the cap space into something worthwhile (ie, not a second two guard and charlie v (if they wanted mercurial and bald, i was available at only half the cost.))

    the dobrickian frustratingness of charlie shouldn’t surprised anyone, that’s been the knock on him forever.

  5. indeedindeed Says:

    and, i agree, it seems like rip should have value for somebody. his contract isn’t great, but he doesn’t need the ball all the time, moves well. he hated coming off the bench in detroit, but maybe he wouldn’t for a contender.

  6. indeedindeed Says:

    we could trade rip and tay for shaq’s expiring 21 million and then sit him. that’d give cleveland a shot at beating LA, and we could build around stuckey, rip, charlie, free agent X, and our lottery pick (let’s start tanking, clapclap, clapclapclap.)

    also, it’s amazing how bad cleveland’s roster is. anyone who argues that kobe is better than lebron is of subsloanaic intelligence.

  7. Kenny Says:

    I agree the chauncey trade made our other guys less tradeable. That’s a good point.

    I think both tay and rip have some value to the right teams. When BG was talking about the pistons trading for tmac i talked about this on the football page. I think RIP would be a good fit for houston, he would give them a legit scoring two guard who would fit well in Adelman’s system. As I said though, i don’t know if i’d want to trade RIP for essentially Tmac’s cap space.

    I think Charlie is signed to a reasonable contract. I think the Gordon signing was a mistake. He’s a streaky guy. You don’t want to be relying on him every single night. Which would be fine if he was your third highest paid player. But for what they gave him it doesn’t make that much sense.

  8. indeedindeed Says:

    yeah, you’re not going to get a more talented guy than charlie for 7 mil a year. he just needs a dash of kobe/ivo competitiveness.

    i don’t even mind ben gordon’s contract if rip is out of the way. gordon is a great go-to end of game scorer, something we’ve never had. but you also want rip on the floor at end of games, especially with his free throw percentage. so having both doesn’t make sense.

    i can’t remember what BG said, i was too flabbergasted by his comments about how fernando rodney was “almost” a top five all-time closer or something.

    how would we package enough salaries to get t-mac (they don’t have a use for tayshaun)? plus, enough it’s a straight salary dump, i don’t love the idea of trading with morey, he’s been fleecing everyone.

  9. Kenny Says:

    Yea to get to TMac’s salary we’d have to add in at least two of our one year contract big guys.

    If I remember correctly RIP, plus wilcox or ben, and kwame’s 4 million expiring deal got us there. But Houston would have zero use for any of those guys. And I think they believe they can get some quality young players out of that Tmac expiring tmac contract. The league is so screwed up when guys who have played 6 games in the last year and a half are somehow valuable trade chips because of their expiring contracts…

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